I do not agree with an Article V. The answer to balancing the budget is to stay within Article I jurisdictions.
The answer is to use the things we do not have but are supposed to have, Citizen's Grand Juries to bring traitors to justice. Bind the strong man of the Magistrate, who thinks he is a King.
A moral and educated populace.
State's exert their Rights over federal usurpations. As the founders intended. This would include 1) forcing feds to pay for Federal Parks as they were supposed to do. Feds have no right to own anything other than 10 sq. miles. That would bind the strong man in many ways, including any incomes from visitors. 2) It would also include acknowledging each state's Preamble/Introduction, as they all acknowledge God Almighty. The strong men have pretended that HIs name does not exist in our founding and by extension, in our future. The Declaration is our Organic Law, It is Law.
Anulling the 17th A. and go back to Senators representing the states.
Anulling the 2nd of the 13th A. and go back to the original 13th, which states that no Titles of Nobility may serve in office. That would 1) destroy the law schools and 2) remove many in Congress. Attorneys join the ABA, which is actually a joining of the British Accreditation Registry, which actually means they are Foreign Agents and must register with FARA, the Foreign Agent Registry Association. But they do not even know, much less do.
Bind SCOTUS to only cases allowed by Art III. Bring impeachment to those who have betrayed us, as Art III states.
Pink Slip the Agencies.
ReDistrict again to follow the Constitution. Only 30,000 citizens per Rep. as the Constitution requires. 1) That would force them back home, 2) F2F with their constituents, and 3) away from the clutches of those who bribe.
One new Amendment that requires a Preamble/Introduction, that: 1) Proves within a shadow of a doubt, that the bill sits nicely within all Art. I Jurisdictions. And no.2): Proves that the bill is "Necessary and Proper in that Jurisdiction. And no. 3a). Is limited to a certain number of pages and 3b) allows a certain length of time to be read by all, and 3c) has time for feedback from constituents in the local area of their new office, within WE the People's home district.
Good ideas all... except... we don't have the time nor is the POLITICAL WILL there for all of these issues. It will be difficult enough to call an article 5 convention... with 2/3rds of the States (34) required to petition Congress.
I have modified my early position on avoiding a convention /// However with time no longer our friend and a 3/4th majority required to ratify any proposed amendment I believe it is the most direct and possibly the only peaceful means to reform government. We are out of time ... the Republic may not see the next election.
Are there any other parts of our original or amended Constitution with which you also disagree? It may interest some of our poorly educated citizens that the same guy who proposed the Convention of States provision in Article V was George Mason, who had also co-authored the Virginia Declaration of Rights in 1775 with Madison, and from which came the first ten (10) amendments to our Constitution, the Bill of Rights. Mason understood, and convinced his colleagues at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia to vote unanimously to include the Convention of States in Article V which has never been amended. He saw that it was extremely important to have this provision so that the States had a legal avenue to petition the federal government and go around an out-of-control Congress. If one looks honestly at what the federal government is doing in the Washington DC swamp, today it's clear that the States must take action now in order to save our constitutional republic since the Congress is demonstrably out of control and no longer responsive to the will of We the People.
Excellent comment Rick... Now if only the people will awake and demand their states pass a resolution calling on Congress to convene an Article 5 Convention.
For those fearful of it running away with the Constitution... remember it takes 3/4ths of the States to Ratify any proposed Amendment by the Convention... that should keep any radical amendment from passing... or a rewrite of the Constitution by Convention.
RickMik > Ronald A. Nelson COL, USA, RetiredMarch 2, 2023 at 6:20pm
Thank you sir, and this old, humbly retired government contractor has been trying to spread the message to everyone he can, wherever and however he can.. Divine Providence has smiled upon the people of this country for almost 250 years and I remain hopeful that good, Christian people will do the right thing to help save our freedoms in our constitutional republic. But then His will be done and we'll just have to accept the consequences whatever they may be, which shouldn't be too harsh in the end if we keep ourselves in the right.
We do not have the same caliber of people as George Mason. The issue is the actual convention, which is an open door. People today cannot even read the specifics of Art I and recognise the limitations therein, nor are they able to read the limitation of only 30,000 citizens per Rep., nor are they able to read Art III, and understand there in no lifetime tenure.
Nor are they able to understand tbe Supremes are fully impeachable for one single offense of operating Above the US Constitution. None of these Art V proponents had any problem with Roberts contorting 0care or altering Title VII. If they had, there would have been outcries for impeaching every single Justice who supported either one of these. Nor are these "constitutional experts" raising any kind of constitutional crisis calls against the FDA running around the SCOTUS on mail- order abortifascients. If Geo. Mason were here now, he would be saying and doing a loud call against all of these atrocities.
I agree with you that in order to take control back the states must exert control, and the people must exert control over the states, in a downward movement.
I would humbly and respectfully disagree that we do not have the same caliber of people as George Mason, as all of the Founders were imperfect men and subject to the same human character defects, temptations, failures and errors in judgement. But they were also humble enough to accept this Biblical truth and to constitute a system of government which seeks to accommodate these human factors, hence the balance of powers and limitations on the powers granted by the States to the federal government. And Article I was amended in 1868 to base congressional representation on the population of each state per the 14th Amendment and presidents had theoretical lifetime tenure until the 20th Amendment was ratified in 1933, so constitutional amendments have been historically passed through the states to Congress for action then back to the states for ratification. But what are we going to do with a Congress which clearly does not respect the will of the people? Simple, bypass the Congress in accordance with Article V and impose term limits on all elected officials and appointed judges as well since many of us can clearly see what damage that they can do in a lifetime tenure and how difficult it is to remove them when incumbent.The COS (Convention of States) project is a bottom-up movement from the level of grassroots citizens to their state representatives, who can then craft appropriate amendments to preclude the unconstitutional actions of an imperial federal government and return power to We the People and the states. Mason was prophetically prescient to suggest the COS option in Article V as he recognized the inate fallibility of all human beings if given the reins of power over their neighbors. But it takes a super majority of states (2/3) to call a convention and a super-super majority (3/4) to ratify each one which shall only in the areas identified in the state resolutions, i.e. term limits, fiscal restraints and limit bureaucratic regulatrion, so the "runaway convention" myth is so improbable as to be virtually impossible.
This is so much garbage... We all know that the government is full of the corrupt and that deception and dissemble will continue as long as the public allows the current members of both political parties to hold public office... The entire system of government is corrupt and the GOP/RNC are unwilling to stand up and demand an Article 5 convention to support and pass a RECALL AND TERM LIMITS AMENDMENT... Fire them all.
We must recall every sitting member of the federal government... Elected, appointed, and Senior Executive Services members of the government must be removed... They are all either complicit with or actively engaged in criminal activity. This includes most federal Judges, prosecutors, and senior members of the DOJ/FBI. The sitting government must LAWFULLY resign or be removed... Subject to NEW and HONEST ELECTIONS. The current group of individuals responsible for oversight and management of the Republic are ALL... every one of them... without exception, playing the public as fools. We are watching one act after another in the latest version of Kabuki Theater... misdirection and deceit at the highest levels destroy any semblance of Constitutional Government.
No one in either political party is willing to inform the public about how bad the situation has become... Open treason, sedition, the looting of our treasury, stolen elections, courts that refuse to hear evidence of stolen elections claiming citizens... voters... have NO STANDING TO CHALLENGE CORRJUPT ELECTIONS. We have political parties that go along with such dissemble. We have LOST OUR REPUBLIC, we are not losing it. We have lost it. No one is organizing or working to take the needed steps to save our Constitutional Republic... They are all playing us for fools.
Pres, Trump is a good man but he ALONE is nor will his election to the office of president be sufficient to save the remnants of our Republic or put it back on track. Trump is just one man and it will take a massive SEED CHANGE to revitalize the roots of our government... massive personnel changes and Pres. Trump has proven he is unable to bring on board the necessary support or select the needed men and women to get the job done. De Santis is also a good man but he like Trump is just one man... we need an Article 5 Convention to Amend the Constitution to repair the fundamental problems with our current government... A RECALL AND TERM LIMITS, A BALANCED BUDGET AND DEBT ELIMINATION AMENDMENT, and a host of other legislative and Constitutional CLARIFICATIONS on such things as lawful immigration, borders, the role of public education, the supreme soverignty of the separate States and the individual citizen.
We need MAJOR LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUTIONAL REFORMS... not more Kabuki Theater or betrayal by those in high public office.
RickMik > Ronald A. Nelson COL, USA, RetiredMarch 1, 2023 at 2:28pm
It may interest you to know that nineteen (19) states have passed a Convention of States resolution since 2014 which are still active, and Wyoming looks to become the 20th very soon. All but one of the fifty (50) states have filed such a bill in their legislatures, and the majority of states that have passed one have legislatures that are controlled by the so-called "conservative" Republican Party. If conservative means to "conserve" our individual liberties, downsize and limit federal government power and return that power to We the People through their closest representatives in the States, then what can be wrong with that? And it's profoundly "constitutional" in the truest sense of the word and can be accomplished peacefully and legally if enough patriotic citizens support it.
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Precisely.....please explain!
Good ideas all... except... we don't have the time nor is the POLITICAL WILL there for all of these issues. It will be difficult enough to call an article 5 convention... with 2/3rds of the States (34) required to petition Congress.
I have modified my early position on avoiding a convention /// However with time no longer our friend and a 3/4th majority required to ratify any proposed amendment I believe it is the most direct and possibly the only peaceful means to reform government. We are out of time ... the Republic may not see the next election.
Are there any other parts of our original or amended Constitution with which you also disagree? It may interest some of our poorly educated citizens that the same guy who proposed the Convention of States provision in Article V was George Mason, who had also co-authored the Virginia Declaration of Rights in 1775 with Madison, and from which came the first ten (10) amendments to our Constitution, the Bill of Rights. Mason understood, and convinced his colleagues at the Constitutional Convention in Philadelphia to vote unanimously to include the Convention of States in Article V which has never been amended. He saw that it was extremely important to have this provision so that the States had a legal avenue to petition the federal government and go around an out-of-control Congress. If one looks honestly at what the federal government is doing in the Washington DC swamp, today it's clear that the States must take action now in order to save our constitutional republic since the Congress is demonstrably out of control and no longer responsive to the will of We the People.
Excellent comment Rick... Now if only the people will awake and demand their states pass a resolution calling on Congress to convene an Article 5 Convention.
For those fearful of it running away with the Constitution... remember it takes 3/4ths of the States to Ratify any proposed Amendment by the Convention... that should keep any radical amendment from passing... or a rewrite of the Constitution by Convention.
Thank you sir, and this old, humbly retired government contractor has been trying to spread the message to everyone he can, wherever and however he can.. Divine Providence has smiled upon the people of this country for almost 250 years and I remain hopeful that good, Christian people will do the right thing to help save our freedoms in our constitutional republic. But then His will be done and we'll just have to accept the consequences whatever they may be, which shouldn't be too harsh in the end if we keep ourselves in the right.
We do not have the same caliber of people as George Mason. The issue is the actual convention, which is an open door. People today cannot even read the specifics of Art I and recognise the limitations therein, nor are they able to read the limitation of only 30,000 citizens per Rep., nor are they able to read Art III, and understand there in no lifetime tenure.
Nor are they able to understand tbe Supremes are fully impeachable for one single offense of operating Above the US Constitution. None of these Art V proponents had any problem with Roberts contorting 0care or altering Title VII. If they had, there would have been outcries for impeaching every single Justice who supported either one of these. Nor are these "constitutional experts" raising any kind of constitutional crisis calls against the FDA running around the SCOTUS on mail- order abortifascients. If Geo. Mason were here now, he would be saying and doing a loud call against all of these atrocities.
I agree with you that in order to take control back the states must exert control, and the people must exert control over the states, in a downward movement.
I would humbly and respectfully disagree that we do not have the same caliber of people as George Mason, as all of the Founders were imperfect men and subject to the same human character defects, temptations, failures and errors in judgement. But they were also humble enough to accept this Biblical truth and to constitute a system of government which seeks to accommodate these human factors, hence the balance of powers and limitations on the powers granted by the States to the federal government. And Article I was amended in 1868 to base congressional representation on the population of each state per the 14th Amendment and presidents had theoretical lifetime tenure until the 20th Amendment was ratified in 1933, so constitutional amendments have been historically passed through the states to Congress for action then back to the states for ratification. But what are we going to do with a Congress which clearly does not respect the will of the people? Simple, bypass the Congress in accordance with Article V and impose term limits on all elected officials and appointed judges as well since many of us can clearly see what damage that they can do in a lifetime tenure and how difficult it is to remove them when incumbent.The COS (Convention of States) project is a bottom-up movement from the level of grassroots citizens to their state representatives, who can then craft appropriate amendments to preclude the unconstitutional actions of an imperial federal government and return power to We the People and the states. Mason was prophetically prescient to suggest the COS option in Article V as he recognized the inate fallibility of all human beings if given the reins of power over their neighbors. But it takes a super majority of states (2/3) to call a convention and a super-super majority (3/4) to ratify each one which shall only in the areas identified in the state resolutions, i.e. term limits, fiscal restraints and limit bureaucratic regulatrion, so the "runaway convention" myth is so improbable as to be virtually impossible.
This is so much garbage... We all know that the government is full of the corrupt and that deception and dissemble will continue as long as the public allows the current members of both political parties to hold public office... The entire system of government is corrupt and the GOP/RNC are unwilling to stand up and demand an Article 5 convention to support and pass a RECALL AND TERM LIMITS AMENDMENT... Fire them all.
We must recall every sitting member of the federal government... Elected, appointed, and Senior Executive Services members of the government must be removed... They are all either complicit with or actively engaged in criminal activity. This includes most federal Judges, prosecutors, and senior members of the DOJ/FBI. The sitting government must LAWFULLY resign or be removed... Subject to NEW and HONEST ELECTIONS. The current group of individuals responsible for oversight and management of the Republic are ALL... every one of them... without exception, playing the public as fools. We are watching one act after another in the latest version of Kabuki Theater... misdirection and deceit at the highest levels destroy any semblance of Constitutional Government.
No one in either political party is willing to inform the public about how bad the situation has become... Open treason, sedition, the looting of our treasury, stolen elections, courts that refuse to hear evidence of stolen elections claiming citizens... voters... have NO STANDING TO CHALLENGE CORRJUPT ELECTIONS. We have political parties that go along with such dissemble. We have LOST OUR REPUBLIC, we are not losing it. We have lost it. No one is organizing or working to take the needed steps to save our Constitutional Republic... They are all playing us for fools.
Pres, Trump is a good man but he ALONE is nor will his election to the office of president be sufficient to save the remnants of our Republic or put it back on track. Trump is just one man and it will take a massive SEED CHANGE to revitalize the roots of our government... massive personnel changes and Pres. Trump has proven he is unable to bring on board the necessary support or select the needed men and women to get the job done. De Santis is also a good man but he like Trump is just one man... we need an Article 5 Convention to Amend the Constitution to repair the fundamental problems with our current government... A RECALL AND TERM LIMITS, A BALANCED BUDGET AND DEBT ELIMINATION AMENDMENT, and a host of other legislative and Constitutional CLARIFICATIONS on such things as lawful immigration, borders, the role of public education, the supreme soverignty of the separate States and the individual citizen.
We need MAJOR LEGISLATIVE AND CONSTITUTIONAL REFORMS... not more Kabuki Theater or betrayal by those in high public office.
It may interest you to know that nineteen (19) states have passed a Convention of States resolution since 2014 which are still active, and Wyoming looks to become the 20th very soon. All but one of the fifty (50) states have filed such a bill in their legislatures, and the majority of states that have passed one have legislatures that are controlled by the so-called "conservative" Republican Party. If conservative means to "conserve" our individual liberties, downsize and limit federal government power and return that power to We the People through their closest representatives in the States, then what can be wrong with that? And it's profoundly "constitutional" in the truest sense of the word and can be accomplished peacefully and legally if enough patriotic citizens support it.
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