From Oren Long on; https://wethepeopleusa.ning.com/forum/topics/we-no-longer-have-honest-elections-but-only-the-illusion-of-hones

 

We no longer have honest elections, but only the illusion of honest elections.  
 
When I was young, we did not have election fraud.  To be sure, every once in a while, someone would vote twice, but it was rare and almost never impacted a race except in local elections and never in state or national elections.  
 
Then, two things happened.  
 
First came the push to eliminate hand-counted paper ballots and vote via machine, supposedly so we (the media, mostly) could more rapidly know election outcomes.  It hasn't worked out as promoted, has it?  
 
Sure, even using machines, the voter still fills out a paper ballot, but then runs it through a machine that counts it.  But machines can be (and often are) corrupted and spit out a false count.  In the case of touchscreen voting machines, there is literally no way to get an accurate recount if shenanigans are alleged.  How do you ask a machine to correct itself?  
 
Again, voting machines were touted as a way to know the outcome of a race almost immediately after the polls closed.  Well, how's that working out, especially when 20% of Arizona's machines went belly-up and had to be repaired (probably by the same technicians who programmed them in the first place)?  Then there is the case of Dominion machines that are [nationally] suspected of being intentionally programmed to favor Democrats, regardless of the actual vote.  
 
In yet another case from Arizona, when Cochise County said it was going to hand-count ballots, Democrats RAN to a friendly, Lefty judge who ruled that the county had to rely on machines whether it wanted to or not.  This, despite the fact that, under Arizona law, all ballots are paper ballots that are fed into a machine for counting and have to be stored and saved for years after an election.  Gee, what if the hand-count differed from the machine-count?  What would that say about the veracity and reliability of machine-counting?  So far, Cochise County if standing firm and says it will hand-count ballots anyway, despite threats from the county attorney to level felony charges if hand-counting proceeds.  We'll see what happens.    
 
Now, instead of having accurate election outcomes within a day or two of election day via hand-counts we have election "week or month".  So much for speed and accuracy.  Maybe we should remember that old adage, "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".    
 
Many suspect that this is exactly what Democrats always wanted, time to "adjust" the vote tally when their candidate is losing by a narrow enough margin.  
 
Next came mass, mail-in ballots.  We have always allowed absentee voting for military, truckers, and others who are physically unable to vote in person on election day.  And they could always request an absentee ballot.  But mass mail-in voting?  Really?!  If people cannot get to a voting booth on election day, how do they manage to get to the store, beauty salon, church, bar, etc.?  Gimme a break!  
 
Mail-in ballots are just another Democrat push to permanently suborn and undermine honest elections for their own, perpetual power.  It reminds me of Communist dictatorships that hold "elections", but always get 98% of the vote.  Yeah, right!  
 
When mail-in ballots are received by a polling place, there is literally no way to know who filled out the ballot.  Sure, the voter has to "sign" the ballot, but does anyone really think officials look at the signature and double-check it against some official state record to make sure the signature matches some non-existent "official" signature?  Juxtapose unverifiable mail-in ballots against in-person voting where the voter has to show I.D. and personally fill out the ballot.  Which one do you think is more secure?  
 
Back to Arizona where hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots remain to be counted, yet important races are already being called for the Democrats.  Many, many, many of those hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots were hand-delivered to polling stations by voters who just didn't trust USPS to get their ballots delivered on time.  These ballots remain to be counted before races are "certified" and counting stops.  What happens if a race is certified, but the final tally of late-counted mail-in ballots disagrees with the State's "certification"?  
 
The same thing is happening in Pennsylvania where up to a million mail-in ballots have been arriving for weeks.  Yet, Pennsylvania refused to even begin counting mail-in ballots until AFTER the polls closed on election day.  Why?  Now, Pennsylvania says it may take weeks to count all the mail-in ballots.  Why weren't said ballots being counted as they were received?  What are they afraid of?  Meanwhile, you can bet Pennsylvania elections will be "certified" before all the mail-in ballots are tabulated.  Count on it.  And, you can bet the Democrat candidates will magically win. 
 
The electoral process ran just fine for well over two hundred years and there were very few problems.  Voters had confidence in the process  (except for places like Chicago).  But now, with the advent of voting machines and mail-in ballots, voters have little or no confidence in the process.  We know something is rotten.  
 
As Abraham Lincoln said, "You can fool some of the People some of the time and you can fool some of the People all the time and you can even fool all the People some of the time, but you cannot fool all the People all the time."  
 
Whenever we question the obvious corruption and mismanagement of elections, we are called "conspiracists", despite overwhelming evidence in our favor.  
 
The only solution is to go "Back to the future" and reinstitute in-person voting with hand-counted paper ballots on election day, with REQUESTED absentee voting as the exception.  
 
Will it happen?  Almost certainly not.  The Democrat machine is totally committed to electoral corruption.  
 
Talk Show host Dan Bongino posed an interesting question, "Why is it we can do almost anything BUT figure out how to have an honest election?".  It isn't that we can't; we WON'T!  Only Florida (remember the 2000 election and "hanging chad" controversy?) has fixed their election process and it took a conservative State to do it.  Both political parties have too much invested in a corrupted system.  It's that simple.  
 
Dan Bongino also says, "Republicans are not the solution to all your problems, but Democrats ARE the cause".     
 
Fair and honest elections will probably become a relic of the past.  As Ronald Reagan said, "The day may come when men tell their children and grandchildren what it was once like when men were free".  
 
So sad.
 
Oren          

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