Whether Citizen Recipientsof this forum on E-MAIL are plumbers,Aeronautical Engineers, House Painters , Medical Doctors , Electricians or any profession; this Email needs to circulate among WE THE PEOPLE of OUR ENTIRE UNITED STATES and WE NEEDTo HELP INSTITUTE THE CORRECTIVE MEASURES LISTED HEREIN. A GOVERNMENT IS INTENDED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE , NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND, IF YOU RECEIVE THIS HAVE FAITH THAT GOD WILL GUIDE YOU FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND THEIR NATION.
RICHARD SANDERS > RICHARD SANDERSNovember 16, 2024 at 8:57am
i AM LEARNING. WE have members such as COLONEL RON and JEA 9 who have educated themselves as to acceptable, effective , established legal procedures that can be employed to combat and litigate the people whose actions are destructive of our way of life in aNATION INTENDED TO BE UNDER GOD. So i certainly would NOT Dispute their solutions. Our Role seems to have changed here from just COMMENTORS to Possible Advisors , COOPERATORS AND ADVOCATES FOR WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA HELPING TO ELIMINATE THE RAMPANT CORUPTION THAT THREATENS TO DESTROY AMERICA. I PRAY TO GOD THAT HE SHALL GUIDE US.
Jea9 > RICHARD SANDERSNovember 15, 2024 at 12:43pm
That would be the purpose of true Citizen's Common Law Grand Juries (a bottom-up form of authority and jurisdiction), able to form the jury, be authorized by a Judge, able to gather evidence, subpoena witnesses pro and con, and ALSO, to try the LAW as well as the accused. Nullification makes the law unlawful. Guilty means Guilty. Punishable by Law. And the Law is null and void. That is what we need in every single voting district at best, and in every state at least one trained Citizen Common Law Grand Jury.
However, some courts have rejected these theories, stating that under the Supremacy Clause, the Fed is superior to the state and the courts have final authority. This "opinion" is in direct opposition to WE the People as the Highest arbiters of law, as we stand on the Law of Nature and Nature's God, Lex non Scripta. We were not and are not meant to be the bottom of the totem pole. GovCO,INC and the Courts have flipped everything, to where we are lucky to still have a vote. Big deal. We have permission to vote. That is in direct OPPOSITION to true Biblical teaching (Lex non Scripta) and the Law of Nature and Nature's God, and our founding, that WE the PEOPLE founded this republic. Bottom up, not Top down. States have always had the power to Nullify but haven't used it. TX is an example of a state that HAS used it—. From Gov. Abbott's desk, came this:
"The federal government has broken the compact between the United States and the States. The Executive Branch of the United States has a constitutional duty to enforce federal laws protecting States, including immigration laws on the books right now. President Biden has refused to enforce those laws and has even violated them. The result is thathe has smashed records for illegal immigration." {wrong term but I digress...). https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/press/Border_Statement_1.24.202...
And—
By Andrew Jackson, President of the United States Whereas a convention assembled in the State of South Carolina has passed an ordinance by which they declare "that the several acts and parts of acts of the Congress of the United States purporting to be laws for the imposing of duties and imposts on the importation of foreign commodities, and now having actual operation and effect within the United States, and more especially" two acts for the same purposes passed on the 29th of May, 1828, and on the 14th of July, 1832, "are unauthorized by the Constitution of the United States, and violate the true meaning and intent thereof, and are null and void and no law," nor binding on the citizens of that State or its officers; and by the said ordinance it is further declared to be unlawful for any of the constituted authorities of the State or of the United States to enforce the payment of the duties imposed by the said acts within the same State, and that it is the duty of the legislature to pass such laws as may be necessary to give full effect to the said ordinance; and....
And yet, currently, an out-of-bounds federal judge blocked a new TX law that allows TX to arrest illegal migrants. This is lawfare against State's Rights. The Feds are required Constitutionally in Art. IV Sect. IV, to guarantee to each state a Republic/an status and structure. (from any danger, whether through illegal aliens or another country's invasion)
The facts are they in govco.INC. have done everything possible to nullify OUR authority both as Christians and as Citizens. They do not represent us, and are in direct violation of the Constitution, that clearly states only ONE rep for every 30,000 citizens. That was to make sure our voices are heard, and to make sure our rats are subject to their home towns in order to know HOW to represent us. The states were to protect us. The Cities were to protect us. And didn't. And this includes the FEDS requirement to protect us against domestic violence, such as BLM, a perfect example.
I would add that People's Grand Juries; WERE MEANT TO BE STANDING JURIES... available to citizens WITHOUT A judge appointing them. In point of fact, Judges are subject to removal through criminal indictment and conviction by a JURY... Our legal system has been HIJACKED by the LEGAL PROFESSION for personal aggrandizement and profit.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW (Judges included)... Juries of the People were to be the final arbitrators of the law... at least in theory.
Jea9 > Ronald A. Nelson COL, USA, RetiredNovember 16, 2024 at 2:15pm
How in the world do we get them back? I see rules for CCLGJ from Florida, that are of interest—
—FINALITY OF DECISIONS No decision of a grand jury is reviewable in any courtof the government. —JURISDICTION: Any government transgression against anyone in any respect. — Any government breaking of articles of peace or security. Any dispute regarding anyone who has been disseized or removed, by the government without a legal sentence of his peers, from his lands, castles, liberties or lawful right. PROCEDURE I Dispute Settlement If the grand jury is informed of any dispute regarding anyone who has been disseized or removed (by the government without a legal sentence of his peers) from his lands, castles, liberties or lawful right, then the dispute shall be settled by the grand jury. —The four members must show to the government the government's error. The four members must ask the government to amend that error without delay. If the government does not amend the error within 40 days after being shown the error, then the four members shall refer the matter to the remainder of the grand jury.
———The grand jury may distrain and oppress the government in every way in their power, namely, by taking the homes, lands, possessions, and any way else they can until amends shall have been made according to the sole judgment of the grand jury.———
—LIMITATIONS ON GOVERNMENT The government is prohibited from doing anything to diminish the effect of the grand jury.
I like this a lot——Just IMAGINE seizing everything Shumer, Pelosi, 0, Biden, Kamel, Van Jones?, Pence, etc. plus the 90% or so of Congress that are anti-Constitutional traitors and murderers. Add in heads of NIH, NIAID, Fauci the rat, FDA and their cursed ConVid EUA, plus the EPA, BLM, CIA, FIB and and and and and, oh, FEMA and Red Cross. And actually, what a blessing it could be, since govco,INC is so HUGE......( We could truly bankrupt them and fund a new common law govt with the proceeds....)
All from some patriotic MACA (Constitutional Again) citizens who—in order to re-form a more perfect Union, re-establish Justice, re-ensure domestic Tranquility, finally provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and re-secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and RE-ESTABLISH this Constutution for the United States of America, as the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave. Amen.
And—in addition, the right to trial by jury of one's PEERS. 6th Amendment. Daniel Webster's 1828 Dictionary—
PEER, noun [Latin par.]
1. An equal; one of the same rank. A man may be familiar with his peers.
2. An equal in excellence or endowments. In song he never had his peer
3.A companion; a fellow; an associate.
So another travesty via judges and legaleez-ers, British Accreditation Registry agents, who search out strangers instead of peers.
Imagine the damage we could extract upon the guilty and at the same time the CORRECTION that could be accomplished with just 4,000 trained Citizens for initiating and serving as Citizen Common Law Grand Juriors.
Jea9 > Ronald A. Nelson COL, USA, RetiredNovember 16, 2024 at 2:11pm
And thank you for that. I originally thought that and then read somewhere that a Judge was required. More bs. Thanks.
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Whether Citizen Recipientsof this forum on E-MAIL are plumbers,Aeronautical Engineers, House Painters , Medical Doctors , Electricians or any profession; this Email needs to circulate among WE THE PEOPLE of OUR ENTIRE UNITED STATES and WE NEEDTo HELP INSTITUTE THE CORRECTIVE MEASURES LISTED HEREIN. A GOVERNMENT IS INTENDED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE , NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND, IF YOU RECEIVE THIS HAVE FAITH THAT GOD WILL GUIDE YOU FOR YOUR CHILDREN AND THEIR NATION.
If they do hopefully they will be voted out in the midterms
How about "A CITIZEN'S VIGILLANCE COMMITTEE"
i AM LEARNING. WE have members such as COLONEL RON and JEA 9 who have educated themselves as to acceptable, effective , established legal procedures that can be employed to combat and litigate the people whose actions are destructive of our way of life in aNATION INTENDED TO BE UNDER GOD. So i certainly would NOT Dispute their solutions. Our Role seems to have changed here from just COMMENTORS to Possible Advisors , COOPERATORS AND ADVOCATES FOR WE THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA HELPING TO ELIMINATE THE RAMPANT CORUPTION THAT THREATENS TO DESTROY AMERICA. I PRAY TO GOD THAT HE SHALL GUIDE US.
That would be the purpose of true Citizen's Common Law Grand Juries (a bottom-up form of authority and jurisdiction), able to form the jury, be authorized by a Judge, able to gather evidence, subpoena witnesses pro and con, and ALSO, to try the LAW as well as the accused. Nullification makes the law unlawful. Guilty means Guilty. Punishable by Law. And the Law is null and void. That is what we need in every single voting district at best, and in every state at least one trained Citizen Common Law Grand Jury.
However, some courts have rejected these theories, stating that under the Supremacy Clause, the Fed is superior to the state and the courts have final authority. This "opinion" is in direct opposition to WE the People as the Highest arbiters of law, as we stand on the Law of Nature and Nature's God, Lex non Scripta. We were not and are not meant to be the bottom of the totem pole. GovCO,INC and the Courts have flipped everything, to where we are lucky to still have a vote. Big deal. We have permission to vote. That is in direct OPPOSITION to true Biblical teaching (Lex non Scripta) and the Law of Nature and Nature's God, and our founding, that WE the PEOPLE founded this republic. Bottom up, not Top down. States have always had the power to Nullify but haven't used it. TX is an example of a state that HAS used it—. From Gov. Abbott's desk, came this:
"The federal government has broken the compact between the United States and the States. The Executive Branch of the United States has a constitutional duty to enforce federal laws protecting States, including immigration laws on the books right now. President Biden has refused to enforce those laws and has even violated them. The result is thathe has smashed records for illegal immigration." {wrong term but I digress...). https://gov.texas.gov/uploads/files/press/Border_Statement_1.24.202...
And—
By Andrew Jackson, President of the United States
Whereas a convention assembled in the State of South Carolina has passed an ordinance by which they declare "that the several acts and parts of acts of the Congress of the United States purporting to be laws for the imposing of duties and imposts on the importation of foreign commodities, and now having actual operation and effect within the United States, and more especially" two acts for the same purposes passed on the 29th of May, 1828, and on the 14th of July, 1832, "are unauthorized by the Constitution of the United States, and violate the true meaning and intent thereof, and are null and void and no law," nor binding on the citizens of that State or its officers; and by the said ordinance it is further declared to be unlawful for any of the constituted authorities of the State or of the United States to enforce the payment of the duties imposed by the said acts within the same State, and that it is the duty of the legislature to pass such laws as may be necessary to give full effect to the said ordinance; and....
And yet, currently, an out-of-bounds federal judge blocked a new TX law that allows TX to arrest illegal migrants. This is lawfare against State's Rights. The Feds are required Constitutionally in Art. IV Sect. IV, to guarantee to each state a Republic/an status and structure. (from any danger, whether through illegal aliens or another country's invasion)
The facts are they in govco.INC. have done everything possible to nullify OUR authority both as Christians and as Citizens. They do not represent us, and are in direct violation of the Constitution, that clearly states only ONE rep for every 30,000 citizens. That was to make sure our voices are heard, and to make sure our rats are subject to their home towns in order to know HOW to represent us. The states were to protect us. The Cities were to protect us. And didn't. And this includes the FEDS requirement to protect us against domestic violence, such as BLM, a perfect example.
I would add that People's Grand Juries; WERE MEANT TO BE STANDING JURIES... available to citizens WITHOUT A judge appointing them. In point of fact, Judges are subject to removal through criminal indictment and conviction by a JURY... Our legal system has been HIJACKED by the LEGAL PROFESSION for personal aggrandizement and profit.
NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW (Judges included)... Juries of the People were to be the final arbitrators of the law... at least in theory.
How in the world do we get them back? I see rules for CCLGJ from Florida, that are of interest—
—FINALITY OF DECISIONS No decision of a grand jury is reviewable in any court of the government.
—JURISDICTION: Any government transgression against anyone in any respect.
— Any government breaking of articles of peace or security. Any dispute regarding anyone who has been disseized or removed, by the government without a legal sentence of his peers, from his lands, castles, liberties or lawful right.
PROCEDURE I Dispute Settlement If the grand jury is informed of any dispute regarding anyone who has been disseized or removed (by the government without a legal sentence of his peers) from his lands, castles, liberties or lawful right, then the dispute shall be settled by the grand jury.
—The four members must show to the government the government's error. The four members must ask the government to amend that error without delay. If the government does not amend the error within 40 days after being shown the error, then the four members shall refer the matter to the remainder of the grand jury.
———The grand jury may distrain and oppress the government in every way in their power, namely, by taking the homes, lands, possessions, and any way else they can until amends shall have been made according to the sole judgment of the grand jury.———
—LIMITATIONS ON GOVERNMENT The government is prohibited from doing anything to diminish the effect of the grand jury.
I like this a lot——Just IMAGINE seizing everything Shumer, Pelosi, 0, Biden, Kamel, Van Jones?, Pence, etc. plus the 90% or so of Congress that are anti-Constitutional traitors and murderers. Add in heads of NIH, NIAID, Fauci the rat, FDA and their cursed ConVid EUA, plus the EPA, BLM, CIA, FIB and and and and and, oh, FEMA and Red Cross. And actually, what a blessing it could be, since govco,INC is so HUGE......( We could truly bankrupt them and fund a new common law govt with the proceeds....)
All from some patriotic MACA (Constitutional Again) citizens who—in order to re-form a more perfect Union, re-establish Justice, re-ensure domestic Tranquility, finally provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and re-secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and RE-ESTABLISH this Constutution for the United States of America, as the Land of the Free and Home of the Brave. Amen.
And—in addition, the right to trial by jury of one's PEERS. 6th Amendment.
Daniel Webster's 1828 Dictionary—
PEER, noun [Latin par.]
1. An equal; one of the same rank. A man may be familiar with his peers.
2. An equal in excellence or endowments. In song he never had his peer
3. A companion; a fellow; an associate.
So another travesty via judges and legaleez-ers, British Accreditation Registry agents, who search out strangers instead of peers.
Imagine the damage we could extract upon the guilty and at the same time the CORRECTION that could be accomplished with just 4,000 trained Citizens for initiating and serving as Citizen Common Law Grand Juriors.
And thank you for that. I originally thought that and then read somewhere that a Judge was required. More bs. Thanks.
GRRRRREEAAAATTT------EEEEEHHAAWW
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